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    Does anyone know off the top of their head how a draw offer must be written in chess notation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iconoclast View Post
    Does anyone know off the top of their head how a draw offer must be written in chess notation?
    If I am not mistaken, you simply write an equal sign ( on your score sheet after you write your move down. If there are further moves afterwards, you know that your offer was knocked back. :eek:

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    Thanks. I don't recall ever seeing anyone using that notation. How well is it known :cool:

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    I use the method AO outlined too ... I think its pretty standard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frosty View Post
    I use the method AO outlined too ... I think its pretty standard.
    What is a little more concerning, I was at a tournament where Garvin Gray was the DOP. Garvin said that the correct procedure is to make your move, hit your clock, and then write your move down on your score sheet. I think he was suggesting that if you wrote your move down first, and then hit your clock, you could be penalized! :eek:

    I don't know if that's correct though.

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    Garvin is correct. FIDE changed the rules, so it is now illegal to write the move first and then play the move on the board.

    If I were offering a draw, the process that I follow is:

    -- make my move on the board
    -- say quietly "I offer I draw"
    -- press the clock
    -- record my move, with an "=" sign after it
    Last edited by Spiny Norman; 24-07-07 at 07:33 AM. Reason: fixed spelling typo

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    Is it a requirement to even record a draw offer if it is declined?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gendo Ikari View Post
    Is it a requirement to even record a draw offer if it is declined?
    Probably not, since if there is a move recorded after the (, then obviously the draw was declined

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    As I understand it, you may only write you move after you have let go of your piece on legal square. The act of pressing of the clock is irrelevent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iconoclast View Post
    Probably not, since if there is a move recorded after the (, then obviously the draw was declined
    If my memory is correct. And I think it is. you are supposed to record a draw offer irrespective of whether it has been agreed or not.

    But most people dont do it and i think that you would have to be called anal for enforcing it with punishment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TangoCharlieNovember View Post
    But most people dont do it and i think that you would have to be called anal for enforcing it with punishment.
    Like enforcing the mobile phone rule

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iconoclast View Post
    Like enforcing the mobile phone rule
    Or enforcing the not writing down your move first rule.:eek:

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    rules....



    i couldnt belive when i played club chess at first, that they didnt say
    check!!! i had played that you always say check , and assumed that all chess players always seid it, in a kind of respect to your oponent, i also didnt know that you had too write the game down , and in the 1st and only comp i went in , in qld the guy running it made me stop playing and write down the game while my clock was running off the other player. punished!

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    We brief our new members in advance on what they should expect when they first start playing at the club. You can read about it here:

    http://www.croydonchess.com/About/Po...2/Default.aspx

    (see the Guidelines for New Members document).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iconoclast View Post
    Like enforcing the mobile phone rule
    I think there is much overreaction to this rule. You can now in some places lose your game just because you forgot to turn your mobile off. It happened to a good friend of mine. I think the punishment is disproportional to the crime!

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