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    David Icke - At Oxford Union Debating Society

    More truth here in this one lecture , than most will hear in a lifetime.
    If you get nothing out of listening to this , then i'm sorry you are either braindead or brainwashed beyond help IMO.

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    ***INTERMISSION***

    Parts 6-11 to follow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axiom View Post
    David Icke - At Oxford Union Debating Society

    More truth here in this one lecture , than most will hear in a lifetime.
    If you get nothing out of listening to this , then i'm sorry you are either braindead or brainwashed beyond help IMO.
    Why should I press the play button? Is this a moment like when Morpheus offered Neo either the red pill or the blue pill?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JKT View Post
    Why should I press the play button? Is this a moment like when Morpheus offered Neo either the red pill or the blue pill?
    yes , something like that

    in fact if you watch , you will see an interesting reference to that film.

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    The point of all this ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hobsonbay player View Post
    The point of all this ?
    Correct .
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    “It is the responsibility of an intelligent man to restate the obvious" G.Orwell

    ".....if you consider these worthy voters as incapable of providing for their own interests, how can they be capable of choosing directors to guide them wisely? How to solve this problem of social alchemy: to elect a government of geniuses by the votes of a mass of fools?" - Errico Malatesta


    "All government, in its essence, is a conspiracy against the superior man: it's one permanent object is to oppress him and cripple him.... One of its primary functions is to regiment men by force, to make them as much alike as possible and as dependent upon one another as possible, to search out and combat originality among them." - H. L. Mencken

    The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way, and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theatre

    "I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most obvious truth, if it be such as would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, which they have proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabric of their lives." — Leo Tolstoy

    “You're here because you know something. What you know you can't explain -- but you feel it. You've felt it your entire life; that there's something wrong with the world; you don't know what it is, but it's there, like a splinter in your mind, driving you mad. It is this feeling that has brought you to me. Do you know what I'm talking about?” — The Matrix



    "Mightier than the tread of marching armies is the power of an idea whose time has come!" — Victor Hugo












    "It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once." -- David Hume

    "Unless we put medical freedom into The Constitution, the time will come when medicine will organize into an undercover dictatorship." — George Washington's physician Dr. Benjamin Rush

    "Nothing can destroy a government more quickly than its failure to observe its own laws, or worse, its disregard of the charter of its own existence." — [22 In. L. R. 575 (1989) quoting Mapp v. Ohio, 367 U.S. 643 (1961)].



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    A Well-Informed Populace Is Vital To The Operation Of A Democracy

    By Noam Chomsky


    If America is to have any hope of one day becoming a true democracy, its populace must be better informed. And if this is to happen, the media must do their part by providing citizens with a more balanced, carefully considered view of the issues.

    It is a misguided notion that the populace is too busy watching football and soap operas to care about matters of true import, or that the apparent complacency of the citizenry stems from simple apathy. Many Americans read newspapers. And most of these readers are interested in the front page, as well as the sports page. But a complex web of corporate interests, along with a trend toward fewer companies owning more communications holdings, contributes to a narrowing of views expressed in the papers of record. If GE owns NBC, and GE stands to make a huge profit from the sale of war machines, can we count on unbiased coverage of a U.S. war from NBC? Of course not. But it is just such unbiased coverage that we desperately need if we as citizens are to enjoy a true democracy.

    Those who trumpet the supremacy of democracy forget that it is merely one of many systems that govern the decisions affecting our lives. Capitalism, our economic system, exerts an equally profound influence, perhaps greater. What stricter, more hierarchical system exists than the modern corporation? No medieval fiefdom of serfs and lords could match the modern corporation in its rigorous control of the populace. And though the people sometimes stay quiet, the corporations never do. They hire lobbyists, fresh from government service, to find the ears of policymakers.

    To counter the overbearing influence of corporations, the populace must engage in a vigilant fight with itself to remain educated and vocal. But they cannot do it alone: The media bear a heavy responsibility to make the interests of the people—not parent companies such as GE—their priority when making decisions regarding coverage.

    An unenlightened democracy, ignored by an ill-informed populace grazing blindly in corporate pastures, is a democracy in name only.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axiom View Post
    If America is to have any hope of one day becoming a true democracy, its populace must be better informed. And if this is to happen, the media must do their part by providing citizens with a more balanced, carefully considered view of the issues.
    I would assert that the average American is far better informed on matters of import and significance than Mr Chomsky gives them credit for.

    I would further assert that America's democracy is more robust and true than many others around the world, and is perhaps the truest and oldest democracy on earth.

    Lastly, in my view, it is NOT the role of media to provide balanced and carefully considered views to the public. Indeed, the average citizen can investigate and research significant issues on their own in order to draw their own conclusions on such matters, affairs, and issues without the aid of the media.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axiom View Post
    “It is the responsibility of an intelligent man to restate the obvious" G.Orwell
    Well that's completely obvious to me ... but that means I must be really intelligent?
    Doesn't sound right right though...
    I must have must missed something

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axymoron View Post
    I must have must missed something

    Axymoron
    hence the need to restate it :
    “It is the responsibility of an intelligent man to restate the obvious" G.Orwell
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrogant-One View Post
    I would assert that the average American is far better informed on matters of import and significance than Mr Chomsky gives them credit for.
    You might assert it but you would be horribly wrong , and therefore ill informed .
    Americans at least have the opportunity to be better informed as they ,unlike the rest of the west , have informing media such as gcn ,rbn radio networks . But the numbers are still relatively low , with the dumbed down ( charlotte izerby) masses predominating , strutting around clueless .



    Quote Originally Posted by Arrogant-One View Post
    I would further assert that America's democracy is more robust and true than many others around the world, and is perhaps the truest and oldest democracy on earth.
    yes it was the truest democracy and perhaps one of the free-est society of peoples that has ever existed , unsurprising given that they were also far better informed then, but that was a long time ago.
    America for the last few decades has seen the hastening of its deliberate destruction at the hands of the globalist banking elite , so as to usher in a one world government ; the very antithesis of old american liberty (note the UN's model state is China ! )
    So not so robust anymore , especially when the public is so woefully ill -informed ,they just sit there like plump cattle ripe for the harvest , brainwashed dumbed down clueless gatekeepers of their own oppression .(btw this is true of all western nations, and most others too , in fact , probably all )

    Quote Originally Posted by Arrogant-One View Post
    Lastly, in my view, it is NOT the role of media to provide balanced and carefully considered views to the public.
    ?? What is their role then ? Not to inform the public ? Not to tell ppl about big picture issues but to keep them distracted by small picture pap?
    No. the 6 corporate entities that own all media , their role is to fulfill their criteria which is to be the gatekeepers of the globalist banking and corporate establishment. Hence the dearth of true big picture investigative journalism , in areas such as big pharma-vaccines ,big agri - monsanto ,big military ind cxomplex- war rationale , big finance- bail out rationale, big picture - questioning our reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arrogant-One View Post
    Indeed, the average citizen can investigate and research significant issues on their own in order to draw their own conclusions on such matters, affairs, and issues without the aid of the media.
    You underestimate the power of media on the masses .( refer:ed bernaisse book "Propaganda")
    Not many have the time and inclination to study this area as i have full time .
    It has taken many years to put the puzzle together .
    What hope does the average busy person (slave) have of getting any idea if they are swamped by the 'program' from birth to death via schooling media and culture.
    The media's job is to brainwash and ill inform you , and make it as difficult as possible to generate people power and get true representative govt. Which makes sense as i said earlier, they work for the capstone of the pyramid not the base .
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    l've got to say AX , that you have no substance as usual giving your
    quoting from experts which they get paid !(slaves) l mean , You are not
    Qualified on these subjects so stop peddling this .Perhaps get a real life
    instead of living in shadows of Academics might help . If you think we are
    not informed as a society or collectively as community you are wrong
    as it would be overload information for most people in their daily lifes .People
    more interested sending their kids to school ,looking foward to their next
    holiday, day when they retire,You simple cant control everything around
    you ,improve systems around you yes. But nothing is perfect !

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    Quote Originally Posted by hobsonbay player View Post
    l've got to say AX , that you have no substance as usual giving your
    quoting from experts which they get paid !(slaves) l mean , You are not
    Qualified on these subjects so stop peddling this .Perhaps get a real life
    instead of living in shadows of Academics might help . If you think we are
    not informed as a society or collectively as community you are wrong
    as it would be overload information for most people in their daily lifes .People
    more interested sending their kids to school ,looking foward to their next
    holiday, day when they retire,You simple cant control everything around
    you ,improve systems around you yes. But nothing is perfect !
    = incoherent , uninformed ,unsubstantiated programmed bile from a brainwashed bootlicker.( and Judas ! )
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